—Children Under Our Care— Pastor Jack sits down with Katy Faust for a high-speed conversation revolving around the rights of children as they pertain to gay marriage, surrogacy, and much more. Join us for this fast-paced and challenging episode. Katy Faust is Founder and President of Them Before Us, a global movement defending children’s right to their mother and father. She publishes, speaks, and testifies widely on why marriage and family are matters of justice for children.